Sneakers55

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Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 6:39:22 AM
On Feb 4, 2012 11:13:38 AM, qwerty17 wrote:
>time to run away from foriegn oil is NOW.
Run away from it? You can't even spell it!
>get cng cars on the assembly lines.
That will take about five years to get the first one off the line barring a crash effort. And then, given that the average vehicle is ten years old, it's going to take a long time to switch over.
Gas-to-liquid conversion is a much quicker route to the same destination.
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dh0770

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Colorado
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Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 1:11:52 AM
What are they using? Three forty year old ships?
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esq262

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Asheville
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 7:02:08 PM
We should treat them like the Barbary pirates and destroy them.
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listerone

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Boston
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 3:05:33 PM
War games? I hope they're ready for the real thing!
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SavingInNC

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 1:04:04 PM
TIME for us to play a few games with them too.
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RonTheRunner77

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 12:56:31 PM
thought they already did this
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gasokie

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Oklahoma
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 8:50:57 AM
Most "experts" think and predict that the USA will be a net exporter of energy (Oil and gas) by the year 2020. That "ain't" that far off. By then we can thumb our noses at them and just hope and pray that we don't still feel like we have to keep the Oil shipping lanes open for China and Europe and well, you know. Of course, the Iranians think that Allah will come and kick all our butts before then. But I think we can relax about then.
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bigmoo63

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Kalamazoo
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 8:30:35 AM
War GAMES. Thats all that region of the world knows. If you left the region, and left OPEC's oil behind, this is a moot discussion. Realistically, we could get the, what is it, around 12% of imported oil from elsewhere. But, that would cut into the pockets of our esteemed elected officials. The two parties of crooks. Nixon started this crap with OPEC, and Obama has perfected it. Until we change, nothing will. More wars we should be involved in, more enemies this country should not have to make. DC, wake up. The only time these people ever come to us is when they want money or to kill in their gods honor. Get it together, DC.
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ClarkSC

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South Carolina
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 7:47:12 AM
It' a game!
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the1roadhog

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 6:22:41 AM
Iran holds the key to worldwide panic and unrest. If Iran jumps ugly, we'll all feel the aftershocks immediately.
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PhilMils

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 6:16:54 AM
I'll give this article all the respect it deserves: a not-very-polite yawn.
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edgarCA

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Oakland
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 1:17:38 AM
Tensions are growing.
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BuckyTJones

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Salt Lake City
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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 9:45:33 PM
It is very good that its just "War Games"
They have always had their butts handed to them in the real thing!
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PathfinderSC

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South Carolina
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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 9:42:50 PM
Iran may bite off more than they can handle.
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Nicoalbum

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Ottawa
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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 8:43:21 PM
Very, very dangerous!
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scu227

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New Haven
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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 8:30:48 PM
Let the games begin !!!!!
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99dakota

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Providence
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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 8:18:44 PM
Time top drop a big one on them.
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toadNY

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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 8:07:27 PM
It's all a game to rise the price of oil an Iran holds the winning cards. An obama is to Freaking Stupid to see it!
[Edited by: toadNY at 2/4/2012 9:08:10 PM EST]
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rbrk02

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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 7:59:44 PM
All simple bravado...
Martinman wrote, "the entire Iranian Navy fleet will end-up being literally sank/buried in the Strait."
In the event of actual conflict, that is likely the result. But it seems unlikely that anything will really come from these war games.
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djliberty

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 7:45:59 PM
they wouldnt be doing this if we hadnt been bullies for the last half century
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Vette1967

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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 7:28:35 PM
Something is bound to go wrong with all this activity in such a confined area.
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Pete12

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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 7:13:17 PM
We know who will be on the losing end of any blockade of the Strait!
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Bussman

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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 7:11:03 PM
A dangerous game of chicken!
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kujiyukiyumi

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 6:39:20 PM
The bully China is also doing her illegal military maneuverings over the West Philippine Sea (ergo South China Sea?) which she is claiming to belong to her...without any legal, historical or geographical basis at all. The US made the initial moves of reiterating support for her long-time ally the Philippines, establishing military base in Australia, and parking warships in Singapore. That area is the more vital navigational waters for commerce of many sovereign and independent states than that insignificant Strait of Hormuz.
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07skydriver

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 6:38:07 PM
Pure puffery.
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Martinman

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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 6:26:11 PM
SHOULD Iran prove to be so stupid as to fire upon any NATO vessel, I think we'll see a Pearl Harbor type of end-result, in that the entire Iranian Navy fleet will end-up being literally sank/buried in the Strait.
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Meowmy

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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 5:31:03 PM
How many more times will we have to 'rescue' them from pirates?
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badbonita

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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 5:27:22 PM
More posturing on Iran's part that is only going to get them trouble.
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gasokie

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Oklahoma
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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 5:18:23 PM
Ho Boy.
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TekWare

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Toronto
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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 4:41:33 PM
Both sides are doing everything they can to keep oil prices climbing.
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ktbaeohana

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Las Vegas
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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 4:30:34 PM
Then will do whatever it take and kill there own country men, everybody know this it not a surprise.
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123cowboy

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Maine
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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 4:26:38 PM
careful or they won't have enough naval forces to have maneuvers..
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leraar2

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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 4:23:54 PM
iran will accomplish nothing, just lose it's navy and air forces.
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Jeff1944

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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 3:26:19 PM
My guess is the US will do nothing, cuz the GOP and Democrats are at impasse over everything. We will defeat ourselves, again.
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bandannaman

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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 3:21:28 PM
whatev
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race2IT

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Fort Worth
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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 2:41:26 PM
There’s plenty of natural gas here in the United States untapped, why bothered about oil in the Middle East.
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md11capt

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Denver
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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 2:08:22 PM
We need to get off oil and tell these clowns to manage without our $$$$$$.
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bullfrog42

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Texas
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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 1:47:19 PM
Wait and see
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TripleHs

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Austin
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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 1:23:39 PM
all sides have been preparing
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MontanaMac

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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 1:10:19 PM
yawn
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Night Owl

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Toronto
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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 12:41:51 PM
Things are heating up. Let's see what happens over the next few days and weeks.
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Ahking

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Orange County
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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 12:33:27 PM
We hear the Israel will take action & Iran will begin war game talks. Hope there are also secret talks that can lead to a peaceful resolution.
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tnfran

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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 12:29:34 PM
Getting so much closer to the 'straw that'll break the camels back!!!!!!!
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DanMtz

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Oakland
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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 11:52:03 AM
They should keep their war games confined to the bathtub.
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Jeff4U

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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 11:40:03 AM
It seems counterproductive that Iran would continue to provoke and threaten the global community and markets.
Iran, keep poking the hornets nest and you will get stung.
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GT3186

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Salem
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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 11:21:25 AM
...and the US Navy is watching, listening, and learning...
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Wanda127

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Florida
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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 11:20:57 AM
Iran needs to be stopped. But we need to drill in the U.S. so we are not dependent on the mid-east oil.
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Yooperheart

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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 11:15:34 AM
Flirting with fire will only cause destruction.
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qwerty17

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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 11:13:38 AM
more puffed-up foolishness from tehran. pathetic, really. time to run away from foriegn oil is NOW. get cng cars on the assembly lines.
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remay

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Houston
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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 11:12:44 AM
Here we go...
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