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Cities 'Want High-Mileage Hybrid Taxis; Judge Says It's Ille

GreenCarReports.com -- By John Voelcker - If you've been to New York City lately, you may have noticed an increasing number of hybrid taxis on the roads: mostly Ford Escape Hybrid SUVs, but also Toyota Camry Hybrid and Nissan Altima Hybrid sedans, and a scattering of others too.

It's part of a long-term plan to green the fleet of 14,000 yellow cabs operating in the city, since they rack up far higher mileage than private cars--close to 100,000 miles a year when running two 12-hour shifts a day.

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honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:15,259 Points:1,141,225 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2010 12:42:12 PM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse and as for complaining, hmmm.. I kinda agree kelsielee. Cabbies are there to drive you from place A to place B, no one said you had to truly be comfy while you were in transit. Although you'd think it would help increase the tip at the end of the day...
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:15,259 Points:1,141,225 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2010 12:40:38 PM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse so, how much kick back is the judge getting for this ruling?
kelsielee Champion Author Atlanta Posts:3,389 Points:672,025 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 8:51:49 PM Ignore kelsielee Report Abuse Such as joke that the taxi owners are concerned about passenger comfort (or being fair to passengers or anything that helps passengers). Complaining about less legroom in a hybrid is just an excuse to use to save them some money since I have never met a taxi driver that cares about his or her passengers' comfort at all.
outlaw329 Champion Author Austin Posts:5,279 Points:931,320 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 1:43:55 AM Ignore outlaw329 Report Abuse Judge got a kick back it seems!
goodbuy Champion Author Michigan Posts:5,509 Points:991,935 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 1:43:02 AM Ignore goodbuy Report Abuse Who cares about New York.
EcoVore Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:3,533 Points:727,150 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 1:40:48 AM Ignore EcoVore Report Abuse Governments always forcing business & citizens to spend, spend, spend. Let the market be the decider & government step aside to make it easier for Americans to make more business & for workers to be hired in other than bloated goverment tax zapping jobs.
nurdco Champion Author Colorado Springs Posts:6,580 Points:1,226,435 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 1:39:47 AM Ignore nurdco Report Abuse News is very old
danreino Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:6,275 Points:1,143,170 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 1:23:48 AM Ignore danreino Report Abuse This cannot be done in 5-10 years, more like 20 if they're lucky.
cableman31 Champion Author New York Posts:6,570 Points:1,567,390 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 1:21:34 AM Ignore cableman31 Report Abuse The FED has to stop trying to run everything.
Pozole Champion Author Portland Posts:6,359 Points:1,126,700 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 1:19:03 AM Ignore Pozole Report Abuse ...there's always someone who stands to make a profit standing in the way of true progress...
dslxcur Champion Author Seattle Posts:1,628 Points:1,159,325 Joined:Sep 2007	Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 1:17:24 AM Ignore dslxcur Report Abuse Dang! .................................... It can only get better........................ On another point as per saveongasNC " When I take taxi I want it to be a American made taxi. ".............................. Hmmmmm! ............................. Wonder what percentage is American Made vs American Assembled in the last 12 years?.................................................
Saturn93 Champion Author Salt Lake City Posts:6,566 Points:1,488,650 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 1:13:48 AM Ignore Saturn93 Report Abuse Read the full article. Thanks to a deal brokered by the Obama White house, we all get to pay for cars which meet California's more stringent emissions requirements.
Saturn93 Champion Author Salt Lake City Posts:6,566 Points:1,488,650 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 12:59:49 AM Ignore Saturn93 Report Abuse A good test for hybrids.
genef01 Champion Author Nashville Posts:2,611 Points:834,680 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 12:56:32 AM Ignore genef01 Report Abuse MidNJ, I am a Raleigh, NC, native and also served as a police officer there in the '60s. I think joel27nc is saying that the taxi he's talking about was a retired police cruiser. When I was an officer and gave you a ride it was free to the Wake County Jail.
saveongasNC Champion Author North Carolina Posts:4,407 Points:1,094,015 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 12:55:51 AM Ignore saveongasNC Report Abuse When I take taxi I want it to be a American made taxi.
rwm1 Champion Author Iowa Posts:2,243 Points:1,200,705 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 12:54:56 AM Ignore rwm1 Report Abuse That stinks and the judge stinks Big Oil money.
Italianman Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:1,732 Points:774,945 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 12:54:50 AM Ignore Italianman Report Abuse It should improve the air quality there.
Quick68 Champion Author Columbus Posts:4,832 Points:757,825 Joined:Dec 2009	Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 12:53:24 AM Ignore Quick68 Report Abuse I agree, the judge was paid off. Money talks.
10k Champion Author North Carolina Posts:16,587 Points:1,787,565 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 12:51:12 AM Ignore 10k Report Abuse this is funny.. 1) wonder who paid off the good judge 2) i sold cars for 37 years and i never saw a crown vic on any of our lots that would get even close to 30mpg in city driving..
eddmac Champion Author Washington Posts:5,526 Points:1,234,975 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 12:51:01 AM Ignore eddmac Report Abuse That sounds right, legistrate something good while judges practising blind justice reverses that good [Edited by: eddmac at 7/31/2010 1:54:25 AM EST]
amearly Champion Author Michigan Posts:9,750 Points:2,003,555 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 12:48:13 AM Ignore amearly Report Abuse So I suppose just like UPS they are going to pass the savings on to the consumers? Yeah right haven't seen any reduced rates just like always prices go up but very seldom come down as much as they raised them.
ex911 Champion Author San Jose Posts:6,844 Points:1,339,770 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 12:39:38 AM Ignore ex911 Report Abuse i've been in several prius taxis
Number43 Champion Author Lexington Posts:6,292 Points:1,189,880 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 12:34:26 AM Ignore Number43 Report Abuse That might be a good use for these cars if they are big enough. As a former taxi driver I can say that fuel costs were a huge worry. But they have to be bigger than the usual mid sized sedans.
vulcan96 Champion Author Ohio Posts:21,163 Points:2,639,270 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 12:28:33 AM Ignore vulcan96 Report Abuse none around here.
MidNJ Champion Author New Jersey Posts:4,623 Points:738,520 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 12:27:42 AM Ignore MidNJ Report Abuse joel27nc Our only taxi in town is a police cruiser. ========= Yes, there is a difference. In your town the police cruiser is the taxi??? Where does your police taxi take you?? Personally, I would rather ride in a hybrid NYC Taxi, LOL
N5EXY Champion Author Austin Posts:3,190 Points:1,045,155 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 12:26:11 AM Ignore N5EXY Report Abuse Idea - How about a straight electric taxi with interchangeable batteries - like a fork lift? Keep the cab running almost 24 hours a day while the spare battery is charging. A fleet operator could have several charging/changing stations in the city. If Howard Hughes was still around he might finance such a fleet.
grouch311 Champion Author Illinois Posts:6,021 Points:1,153,490 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 12:25:49 AM Ignore grouch311 Report Abuse haven't seen too many around here either
250FORD Champion Author Minnesota Posts:8,265 Points:1,303,335 Joined:Feb 2007	Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 12:24:36 AM Ignore 250FORD Report Abuse I guess the judge got a kick back from the oil companies.
CobraLeader Champion Author New Jersey Posts:267,902 Points:1,200,750 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 12:20:23 AM Ignore CobraLeader Report Abuse ... Haven't been to NYC lately, but the cabs in Philly don't appear hybrid. ... ... They still look like old Police cruisers. ...
us4usa Champion Author Missouri Posts:3,820 Points:680,225 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 12:14:44 AM Ignore us4usa Report Abuse So now the taxis will lower the fare for lower fuel bills???
mvosevich Champion Author St. Louis Posts:5,453 Points:1,108,165 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 12:10:06 AM Ignore mvosevich Report Abuse Smart move.
NavyEOD Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:7,697 Points:1,564,875 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 12:08:36 AM Ignore NavyEOD Report Abuse It makes a lot of sense. They drive a lot and there spending less on fuel.
Rednix Champion Author Miami Posts:3,884 Points:813,995 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 12:03:13 AM Ignore Rednix Report Abuse Good idea.
comprof Champion Author Houston Posts:4,373 Points:895,100 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 12:00:14 AM Ignore comprof Report Abuse It will probably be a good test for them.
Z51Corvette Champion Author Austin Posts:6,156 Points:1,224,540 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 12:00:06 AM Ignore Z51Corvette Report Abuse Well they should get them and save some money for the taxpayers.
runout9 Champion Author New Jersey Posts:3,139 Points:957,625 Joined:Dec 2008	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 11:55:34 PM Ignore runout9 Report Abuse NGV's is the way to go. Taxi, bus, vocational sanitary trucks, police & fire. We have the natural gas, we have the technology, we now have the federal government incentives. What's the problem?
NOTSOGRN Champion Author Michigan Posts:1,281 Points:1,083,020 Joined:Dec 2007	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 11:55:26 PM Ignore NOTSOGRN Report Abuse OK now we can see if they will hold up or not.
aldog365 Champion Author Nashville Posts:3,140 Points:1,557,660 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 11:48:46 PM Ignore aldog365 Report Abuse I'd like to see what it will cost to upkeep these cabs.Batteries,motors,relays and switches all cost money.They will have to run them for 20yrs to pay for them.
AC-302 Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:21,253 Points:2,450,715 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 11:47:02 PM Ignore AC-302 Report Abuse All well and good, but I wonder how tough (durable) they are?
Bigwaynef Champion Author South Carolina Posts:7,654 Points:1,613,960 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 11:37:02 PM Ignore Bigwaynef Report Abuse In NYC...yeah right!
IamWhoIam Champion Author San Francisco Posts:13,960 Points:1,459,700 Joined:Jan 2007	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 11:36:50 PM Ignore IamWhoIam Report Abuse Yes indeed, we want cleaner air too.......
SBlouch Champion Author San Antonio Posts:6,885 Points:1,470,780 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 11:36:41 PM Ignore SBlouch Report Abuse Have quite a few here in San Antonio especially when gas hit over $4.00 a gallon. Since then more taxis' are now hybrids so its a win win for everyone.
craigsf38 Champion Author Rochester Posts:3,415 Points:1,045,065 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 11:36:06 PM Ignore craigsf38 Report Abuse fresh air in NYC they havent seen that in over a century
TIGERPAW46 Champion Author Florida Posts:5,156 Points:965,745 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 11:34:13 PM Ignore TIGERPAW46 Report Abuse What ridiculous times we survive in these days.
cheapertvs Champion Author Richmond Posts:7,840 Points:2,273,745 Joined:Jan 2004	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 11:34:02 PM Ignore cheapertvs Report Abuse How about extremely long extension cords?
mfeldstein Champion Author Ottawa Posts:6,117 Points:1,523,560 Joined:Feb 2007	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 11:33:57 PM Ignore mfeldstein Report Abuse Clean air in New York City. What a concept!
tedjm1 Champion Author New York Posts:3,540 Points:389,685 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 11:28:36 PM Ignore tedjm1 Report Abuse But the fleet owners are fighting the requirement for these vehicles. Too expensive to change the whole fleet.
TBONE3 Champion Author Pennsylvania Posts:6,387 Points:1,510,725 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 11:27:47 PM Ignore TBONE3 Report Abuse Get rid of the taxis and change over to trolley cars and trackless trolleys. Just shut the cabbies down. NOT!!!
mstearno Champion Author Dayton Posts:5,867 Points:1,286,185 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 11:20:40 PM Ignore mstearno Report Abuse How much more will they charge for fair when their costs goes way up?
joel27nc Champion Author Raleigh Posts:8,152 Points:1,391,370 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 11:20:01 PM Ignore joel27nc Report Abuse Our only taxi in town is a police cruiser.